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XPorn
10-20-2003, 09:16 AM
I went from first page of results to GONE......bastards.

Had to get that off my chest.

XPorn
urb
10-20-2003, 11:22 AM
How are you doing on Google with the same site?
DangerDave
10-20-2003, 04:34 PM
X, was it a new listing?

DD
XPorn
10-20-2003, 06:03 PM
Was a listing for FreeSiteXXX.com

Made 1st page on yahoo for a key term.....

Was on 2nd page on google...

I didn't change anything and the google listing dropped like a rock about 1.5 months ago.....then all of a sudden I appeared much higher over on Yahoo....and was generating a lot of traffic from that term.

Obviously yahoo updated about 1 day ago...because I'm gone.....what a downer!

Oh well....slow and steady as she goes... ;-) I was killed on google 1 month ago...only to reappear at #1 on a few terms....so you can only guess at the next move.
xxxjay
10-20-2003, 07:00 PM
Wait till the upcoming Inktomi switch...that's really gonna suck...for the people searching on yahoo especially.

Try to find anything worthwhile on Inktomi:
http://search.positiontech.com/InktomiSearch/PositionTechSearch.jsp

Sucks, don't it?
DangerDave
10-20-2003, 07:01 PM
X, there are many reasons why you can go up and down...

I will assume that the Yahoo listing is a reflection of Google..

Changes in google often occur.. When you first get listed.. Googlebot finds your page.. does a quick assessment and slots you in its results. This can often be a good listing..

Then over time.. 1-3 months, Googlebot assesses your incoming links, your site, page structure etc, and then starts to apply them to where you land in the results...

Normal progress for a new site IMO...

A new site of mine built for specific keywords followed a path like this..

1st week - #1
2nd week - #3-5
3rd week - dropped to mid 30's
4th week - dropped to mids 100's :(
5th week - back in top 10
6th week - back solidly at #1

This sort of pattern is what I see now with most new sites...

Things that might influence this pattern include,
- where you get the sites linked from
- the relevance and PR of the places you get it linked from
- your keyword structure
- any change in your page
- and a multitude of other things;)


Same forward plan applies...
- gain more incoming ranked,relevant links
- be specific in the syntax of links used to link TO your site
- be aware that little changes in your page can make a big difference to word structure, density, relevance.

HTH

DD
XPorn
10-20-2003, 07:17 PM
DD....yes that "start high" and head down and come back up pattern I've seen on google over this past spring/summer/fall.....like we're dealing with a living breathing creature. ;-)

Hey XXXJay....speaking of terms...etc....how are your category specific recips working out? I'm plotting my next recip change....not convinced on what direction to take....maybe category....or maybe a bunch of terms...etc.

XPorn
XPorn
10-20-2003, 07:19 PM
and Yes...those positiontech search results blow.....almost like a homemade search engine gathered them...
xxxjay
10-20-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by XPorn
DD....yes that "start high" and head down and come back up pattern I've seen on google over this past spring/summer/fall.....like we're dealing with a living breathing creature. ;-)

Hey XXXJay....speaking of terms...etc....how are your category specific recips working out? I'm plotting my next recip change....not convinced on what direction to take....maybe category....or maybe a bunch of terms...etc.

XPorn

DD - Nice post.

I get a ton of hits to my categories. Type "xxx *anything*" and you will probably see me.