How to beat a google cloaker?

[Slinx]

Any suggestions?

xxxjay: I mean the same guy like you.

[MrMaryLou]

I just think of it all this way cheaters never win and winners never cheat :)

[Linkster]

Are you referring to someone that is cloaking for a valid reason or someone that you think is using cloaking to better their SE rankings? If its for the SE rankings, I doubt you would be able to tell they were cloaking in most cases (the good ones are extremely hard to detect)
If its someone that you know is cloaking and its for a valid reason, what would you want to do about it? I dont know of any rules that say you cant cloak - just depends on what you serve up :)

[xxxjay]

Just wait them out.

They all get removed eventually.

[Slinx]

Originally posted by Linkster
Are you referring to someone that is cloaking for a valid reason or someone that you think is using cloaking to better their SE rankings? If its for the SE rankings, I doubt you would be able to tell they were cloaking in most cases (the good ones are extremely hard to detect)
If its someone that you know is cloaking and its for a valid reason, what would you want to do about it? I dont know of any rules that say you cant cloak - just depends on what you serve up :)

I mean cloaking for a better SE position. I mean those guys which own position 1-100 to all relevant keywords of a special sponsor.

The spider gets a site with keywords, without graphics and tables. And the surfer gets a nice designed site.

I don't believe that google cares a lot about all the spam reports.

[Slinx]

Originally posted by xxxjay
Just wait them out.

They all get removed eventually.

Do you have some insider informations?

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
I just think of it all this way cheaters never win and winners never cheat :)

I think MML nailed it right on the head with that one.

[DangerDave]

Track and report them.... http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

Giving Google as much info as possible..

DD

[flyeruk]

Would someone be kind enough to define cloaking?

Reason I'm asking is that I've good 1st page rankings for about 10 phrases but someone else has exactly the same title but on a different domain!

So what I hear you all say...

Do a search for brunette porn links

My site is 2nd, but look at the 7th listing. That is not my domain but is clearly my title.

This is the same for another 9 phrases.

Is this cloaking by someone else to gain good placement?

I don't have a copyright notice on my site so I suppose I can't do anything about it. Or can I?

Any thoughts appreciated.

Lisa.

[DangerDave]

Lisa,

These diks dont care about copyright notices:(

"It" has "stolen" your title/meta tags/pages and now redirects the versions he has on line.

Go here and report "it"
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

DD

[flyeruk]

Thanks DD,

Been reported now for all 10 phrases that I could find.

Hope at the next update they've gone |angry|

Cheers,

Lisa.

[urb]

Originally posted by flyeruk
Hope at the next update they've gone

This type of Google spam never lasts.

Are you a Gordie Lisa? ;)

[flyeruk]

Hey Urb,

Sure am a Geordie :)

I know there's a couple other webmasters originally from the North East too.

Where you from?

[urb]

I know Paul Mondo (http://www.mondoerotica.com/) is originally from the North East, but that's about it.

[flyeruk]

Yeh, I think he's in Switzerland now.

IntelligentWebs is also from NE, just a mile or so from me.

The weather is miserable here, no wonder they up and left :)